News Lumix S1II & S1IIe live event party

[Quentinquirelino]

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Lumix S1II

New 24 MP stacked sensor. Improved version of S1H and merger with S1. All features are better than with S1H and it is 800 USD cheaper than the S1H at launch. Same body as S1IIe and S1RII.

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As far I know, Panasonic already confirmed a S1Hii is in the works. Maybe S1HII will merge the S1II and S1RII, higher pixel count and stacked sensor.

 

[dirk]

As far I know, Panasonic already confirmed a S1Hii is in the works. Maybe S1HII will merge the S1II and S1RII, higher pixel count and stacked sensor.

I have not seen any confirmation about this yet.

If they bring a S1HII (and name it that way), it needs to be a monster to be able to beat the S1II. That will cost probably a lot more. Not just a few hundred USD more.

I wonder whether there would be enough customers who are willing to pay +5.000 USD for a camera and who need features, which the S1II does not offer yet.

 

[GeorgeHudetz]

I have not seen any confirmation about this yet.

If they bring a S1HII (and name it that way), it needs to be a monster to be able to beat the S1II. That will cost probably a lot more. Not just a few hundred USD more.

I wonder whether there would be enough customers who are willing to pay +5.000 USD for a camera and who need features, which the S1II does not offer yet.

And then here is the interesting part - if they make a body with a hi-res fully stacked sensor, the sports & wildlife people will want it as well. Especially if they give it a bigger buffer & the AF is up to par. So, calling it an "S1HII" could put off stills people. Especially if it has an AA filter, although I suppose they could have an S1HII & a S1HIIX tp overcome that.

 

[Quentinquirelino]

And then here is the interesting part - if they make a body with a hi-res fully stacked sensor, the sports & wildlife people will want it as well. Especially if they give it a bigger buffer & the AF is up to par. So, calling it an "S1HII" could put off stills people. Especially if it has an AA filter, although I suppose they could have an S1HII & a S1HIIX tp overcome that.

Maybe, but I think priority for Panasonic are hybrid shooters. Of course the specifications would also be intriguing to wildlife shooters. However, I don't think an AA filter would be necessary with a 44 to 50 Mpix Sensor.

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I wonder whether there would be enough customers who are willing to pay +5.000 USD for a camera and who need features, which the S1II does not offer yet.

The OG S1H was introduced for 3999€ back in 2019. I think when they would offer a S1HII wit fully stacked 45 Mpix Sensor, with DR boost, with all those S1II features and additional 8k possibilities, with even more advanced AF features, there will be enough potential customers to pay around 4499€ or even 4999€.

 

[dirk]

The OG S1H was introduced for 3999€ back in 2019.

You have to add inflation of over 6 years, if we are talking m about a launch date in 2025. Plus the better tech.

I would see that Lumix camera more between 5.500 and 6.000 USD/€. nowadays, if the newest tech is used.

Look at the Canon R5, Nikon Z8 etc and their launch price 2-5 years ago. Always well above 4.500 € and they could produce it cheaper thanks to their bigger volume.

 

[Markuswelder]

Panasonic Lumix S 24-60mm F2.8 Review | Photography Blog

Expert review of the Panasonic Lumix S 24-60mm F2.8 mirrorless camera lens with full-size sample images.

www.photographyblog.com

The size of the 24-60 given that it’s non extending is quite remarkable.

It extends when zooming. The focus happens internally

 

[pdk42]

As far as I can see it and how different youtubers described it, the product placement is as follows:

Lumix S1IIe

2.800€. Improved version of the S5IIx. Same 24MP sensor, but the rest better (body, AF, speed, processor, EVF, tilting screen etc.). More expensive than launch price of S5IIx to be able to offer both at different price levels. User shall decide depending on budget and required tech.

Lumix S1II

3.500€. New 24 MP half-stacked sensor. Improved version of S1H and merger with S1. All features are better than with S1H and it is 800 USD cheaper than the S1H at launch. Same body as S1IIe and S1RII. optimized for video, best rolling shutter of all 3. Not yet a sports camera.

Lumix S1RII

3.600€. New BSI (non stacked) 44MP sensor. Replaces the S1R. In almost all features better than S1R and in some on par (i.e. EVF). AF etc. same as with S1II and S1IIe. Image quality for photography better than S1R and S1II. Not just resolution, also colours etc. Because of sensor and MP, rolling shutter risk with video

S9 (street price 1.200€), S5 (street price 999€), S5II (street price 1.900€) and S5IIx (street price 2.200€) stay in the product line. Products on all price levels and below the 3 new bodies.

Thanks for this summary Dirk. I think I now understand the positioning. For sure, if/when I replace my current OG S bodies, the S1Rii is the camera for me. I might look at what my S1 + S1R will sell for and see what the cash outlay will be. I might do it for the autumn season. I'm going to be spending two months in France later in the year and I've have a lot of time on my hands so I suspect I'll be doing a lot more photography.