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S1II/e/S1RII launch event feedback & wishes for 2025

dirk said:
I think promotions is the name of the game in the whole photo industry. Look at how cheap a Nikon Ziii is now. Actually this is in every industry the same. Look at cars etc.

But it takes time and if you want to use the camera now and not in 1 year, you have to bite the bullet.

I normally buy second hand only. But I needed the S1RII now, not in 6 months.

Interestingly there are no bundles with the 24-60/2.8 available in Germany. No matter at which price.
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Acceptable with the Nikon, it's been out nearly twelve months, the S1RII has been available around 2 months. I don't think this is the way to treat customers/consumers. Panasonic would be better to offer the deals to early adopters and on pre-orders, then sticking to RRP for at least a reasonable time. I would imagine I'm not the only one who said I would never pre-order a Panasonic again. The S5II had offers, free lens etc at around 3 months after launch.

Totally can see why you wanted yours early, have done the same myself in the past and there is nothing more special or impelling than catching your kids/grandkids important moments, so good luck with it, and for the teams season :) .
 
dirk said:
Now you become philosophical. What do you "need" in live except water, air and a french baguette with good cheese Daumenhoch Smilie
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Exactly my point. What did we do years ago, to take photos of our kids running ary? Before Pro level cameras became somewhat affordable?
I've even had one d!(khe@d on another photography site tell me it was tantamount to child abuse if you didn't shoot photo's of your snotty nosed offspring with anything less than a full frame sports camera. Lol.
Toy's. That's all they are for the vast majority of us. And I'm at the top of that list.
 
Jayneboo said:
Acceptable with the Nikon, it's been out nearly twelve months, the S1RII has been available around 2 months. I don't think this is the way to treat customers/consumers. Panasonic would be better to offer the deals to early adopters and on pre-orders, then sticking to RRP for at least a reasonable time....
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The deal Markus posted isn't a Panasonic promotion, it's a retailer discount.

It's almost every the case, early adaptors pay the full price. Sometimes there are preorder promotions, but there are rare actors all brands and most of the time less attractive than promotions a few months later.

It's also nothing unusual that you can get pretty good discounts only shortly after a release, for any brand. The Nikon Z6iii for example was already 200 € discounts by most retailers here in Germany in July 2024. It was released in June. Also the Z5II was already discounted up to 150€. It also the same with Sony or Canon cameras or lenses.
 
Quentinquirelino said:
The deal Markus posted isn't a Panasonic promotion, it's a retailer discount.

It's almost every the case, early adaptors pay the full price. Sometimes there are preorder promotions, but there are rare actors all brands and most of the time less attractive than promotions a few months later.

It's also nothing unusual that you can get pretty good discounts only shortly after a release, for any brand. The Nikon Z6iii for example was already 200 € discounts by most retailers here in Germany in July 2024. It was released in June. Also the Z5II was already discounted up to 150€. It also the same with Sony or Canon cameras or lenses.
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I believe the offer I posted is a Panasonic Promotion.

Having bought Sony, Canon, Sigma, and Leica at launch here in the UK, the only time I have felt short-changed has been with Panasonic. Of course I expect the prices to drop and offers to arrive after time, but with Panasonic it seems ridiculously quick. An example, I don't think the Sigma FpL price has dropped in 4 years, very hard to buy one new any less than original launch price, maybe the odd deal has cropped up now and then but it has the effect of keeping the value in the secondhand market also.
 
Jayneboo said:
Acceptable with the Nikon, it's been out nearly twelve months, the S1RII has been available around 2 months. I don't think this is the way to treat customers/consumers. Panasonic would be better to offer the deals to early adopters and on pre-orders, then sticking to RRP for at least a reasonable time. I would imagine I'm not the only one who said I would never pre-order a Panasonic again. The S5II had offers, free lens etc at around 3 months after launch.
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Like I wrote, I think they've changed strategies. Like you noted, around the time of the S5 and S5 II.
I'm probably one of the manufacturers worst nightmares, only buying on sales/promotion offers. I don't pretend to understand it, I just take advantage of it.
And it helps that I don't "need" any of it Daumenhoch SmilieDaumenhoch Smilie
 
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